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Borgel case back
Numbers inside a Borgel case back

Borgel Case Number Project

If you own a Borgel screw cased watch, and here I am talking about the early screw in cases made to Borgel's 1891 patent CH4001, then after finding out that it was made by François Borgel, and deciphering the sponsor's mark and the hallmarks, you may, like me, have wondered what the numbers stamped in the case back mean. I mean the numbers like the 3130633 and 40 that you can see in this Borgel case back.

I am collecting as many pictures as I can of case backs like this which can be accurately dated from their hallmarks. I hope that by building up a big collection of numbers and dates from the hallmarks, some sense may emerge from the numbers. It may be a long shot, but if the numbers can be put into sequence and matched up with the hallmark dates, we may be able to derive production quantities for separate years, or put dates to case that don't have hallmarks.

Most Borgel cases like this have a long serial number in the middle of the case back, which I have called the main serial number, and a shorter one or two digit number in the bottom of the case back which I have called the sub-serial number. Some also have a shorter number below the long serial number, which I have called the sub-main serial number, and a number, often a single digit punched on its side, below the sub-serial number, which I have called the sub-sub-serial number.

If you can contribute a picture of the inside case back of your Borgel watch, with hallmarks so that it can be accurately dated, to this project, or have any comments, requests or suggestions, then please feel free to email me at You shouldn't need to copy the email address, just click on it. I answer all emails I receive, so if you do write to me and don't get an answer in a few days, please check your junk and spam folders. Even better, when you write, add my email address to your contacts and my emails will not be filtered out. All contributions will be acknowledged - I look forward to hearing from you! Regards - David

I have put all the information I have gathered into a database and the results should be in a table below. If I have used your data and not put your name against it, plese let me know. You can click on a column heading to sort the table by that column, and then click again on the same heading to reverse the sort order. If you sort by one column, you can then hold down the shift key and do a sub-sort by a second column. The data is pulled off the database in year order. Remember that the hallmark years don't correspond to the calendar years - for offices with data in the table the hallmark years were:

Material Sponsor Office Date
Letter
Year Main
Serial
Number
Sub-Main
Serial
Number
Sub
Serial
Number
Sub-Sub
Serial
Number
Movement Notes Contributor
silver CN London m 1907 405428 0 36 0 IWC Pocket watch DBB
silver CN London o 1909 460795 0 21 0 IWC Earliest wristwatch Lorraine Whiteside
silver AB London p 1910 2222639 0 5 0 Small pocket watch DBB
silver AB London q 1911 223370 0 34 0 DBB
silver GS London q 1911 7681 0 19 0 DBB
silver AB London s 1913 347435 0 16 0 Anon
gold 18 ct CN London t 1914 670756 0 28 0 IWC calibre 64 DBB
silver AGR London t 1914 75507 0 8 0 Electa-Gallet 59962 Presented to Captain Thorpe 1917 DBB
silver AL Glasgow R 1914 158861 0 11 0 DBB
silver GS London t 1914 211118 0 32 9 Dial signed S R Elliot DBB
silver GS London t 1914 252205 0 14 2 Thomas Dutton
silver GS London t 1914 140309 0 21 1 Thomas Dutton
silver ? London t 1914 63368 0 4 2 Thomas Dutton
silver AB London t 1914 376767 0 17 1 Longines Mappin DBB
silver AGR London t 1914 71625 0 16 0 Electa-Gallet 56962 17j micro. regulator. DBB
silver GS London t 1914 150973 0 13 1 Difficult to read Paul Henty
silver CN London t 1914 670921 0 7 0 IWC Paul Henty
silver AGR London t 1914 77026 0 39 5 Electa-Gallet 61437 Centre seconds Arend
silver AGR London u 1915 84856 0 3 0 Electa-Gallet 74350 Electa on dial DBB
gold 18 ct AGR London u 1915 82192 0 21 0 Electa-Gallet 99734 DBB
silver FGT London u 1915 146 0 2 0 Thomas Dutton
silver GS London u 1915 23061 0 7 5 DaveIrl
silver AGR London u 1915 88546 0 23 0 DaveIrl
silver AGR London u 1915 2961308 0 7 2 Anon
silver AB London a 1916 439941 0 0 0 DBB
silver AGR London a 1916 507611 0 32 0 DBB
silver CG London a 1916 26199 0 23 0 Lemania Centre seconds DBB
silver AGR London a 1916 92091 0 18 11 Thomas Dutton
silver AGR London a 1916 480336 0 11 3 Thomas Dutton
silver FGT London a 1916 603 0 27 0 Difficult to read Anon
silver CN London a 1916 707219 0 35 0 IWC Russell Bull
silver GS London a 1916 380730 0 22 0 Trim
silver AGR Glasgow u 1917 303800 0 47 0 Electa-Gallet 66249 Centre seconds DBB
silver DBs London b 1917 813622 0 29 0 Dimier Frère et Cie DBB
silver AGR Glasgow u 1917 617957 0 8 0 Anon
silver AGR Glasgow u 1917 303927 0 30 3 Cary Hurt
silver CN London b 1917 712921 0 35 0 IWC Darryll Benson
silver GS Birmingham s 1917 16534 0 13 0 Difficult to read Roger Corby
silver AGR London b 1917 61330 0 0 0 Strickland
silver AGR London c 1918 3130633 0 40 0 DBB
silver AGR London c 1918 306879 0 36 0 Electa-Gallet Inner cuvette DBB
silver JW and GS (?) Birmingham t 1918 3305911 4344 36 11 Cyma Motion,Smith & Son Ltd.on dial. Thomas Dutton
silver GS Birmingham t 1918 3305911 4976 44 24 Thomas Dutton
silver AGR London c 1918 3130860 0 27 5 Depose No. 9846 Anon
silver CN London c 1918 742498 0 6 4 IWC Anon
silver AGR London c 1918 675288 0 11 1 Kurt Schmid
silver AGR London c 1918 308458 0 38 18 Electa-Gallet 82059 DBB
Gold 9 ct AB London k 1925 4237454 0 30 0 Longines Radger
silver GS London m 1927 50814 0 8 0 Anon
silver VW.co London n 1928 654447 634 15 2 DBB
silver SFC London n 1928 3305911 0 5701 0 Cary Hurt
silver SD Glasgow g 1929 348254 0 10 0 John Airey

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